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Karen ([personal profile] karen2205) wrote2003-08-21 03:23 pm

Bureacracy

Following on from [livejournal.com profile] beingjdc's post earlier, here are my recent experiences with bureacracy.

While trying to register with a local doctor yesterday, I had to show them my lease to prove that I lived in the right area, my passport to prove that I live in this country, my NHS card (fair enough) and then fill in a medical questionnaire (again fair enough - it takes months for your records to catch up with you). But having spend ten minutes or so completing this questionnaire I had to make an appointment with a health care assistant to register with the practice (isn't one available until 15th Sept) and they won't register me *until* that appointment. So the point of me sitting there filling in their questionnaire then and there was?

Oh and talking about that questionnaire - not only did it ask 'How long do you intend to remain in the UK' - well, err I *live* here you know, it asked 'First language', followed by 'Any English?' - how anyone who speaks no/limited English is supposed to even get that far on the form.....

And all of that's before we reach the family planning questions on the back - 'Which method of contraception do you use?' - Well I don't use any, but that's because I've never had sex - as I felt the need to write on the form. Saying you use no contraception *without* giving an explanation just looks bloody irresponsible.

Then when I got home, there was a letter from a firm of baliffs wanting to remove property belonging to a previous tenant for failing to pay her Council Tax, so I phoned them, explaining that said person doesn't live here anymore, that I do, and that the Council already know I live there - and so I have to send them a copy of my lease and of a utility bill.

[identity profile] shreena.livejournal.com 2003-08-21 08:51 am (UTC)(link)
Saying you use no contraception *without* giving an explanation just looks bloody irresponsible.

Awww. I'm ashamed to admit I found that paragraph very funny!

When I've gone to see the doctors with a "female problem", they've often asked me the very coy question "do you have a boyfriend?" which infuriates me. If they want to know whether you're sexually active, they should just ask that. You can be sexually active and not have a boyfriend or sexually inactive and have a boyfriend. For that matter, I could have a girlfriend. Stupid, stupid, question.

[identity profile] hsenag.livejournal.com 2003-08-21 08:54 am (UTC)(link)
Then when I got home, there was a letter from a firm of baliffs wanting to remove property belonging to a previous tenant for failing to pay her Council Tax, so I phoned them, explaining that said person doesn't live here anymore, that I do, and that the Council already know I live there - and so I have to send them a copy of my lease and of a utility bill.

Surely if you refused they couldn't just come barging in and remove stuff? Isn't it incumbent on them to verify who the occupier is and who the stuff belongs to?

[identity profile] hsenag.livejournal.com 2003-08-21 09:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but if you'd informed them over the phone that you'd moved in, then they could no longer claim to have such a belief. I'd have thought it should then become incumbent on them to check their facts.

But yeah, given the consequences even if it was their fault, I'd be inclined to jump through their hoops.

[identity profile] lisekit.livejournal.com 2003-08-21 09:12 am (UTC)(link)
fill in a medical questionnaire (again fair enough - it takes months for your records to catch up with you).

Too right - nine months after I'd had my appendix whipped out (it was about to explode), my temporary GP hadn't sent my notes to my Cambridge GP. The subject came up in conversation about another medical problem altogether, and surprised the hell out of my usual GP.

[identity profile] lisekit.livejournal.com 2003-08-21 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, well, the interesting thing about my appendix was that it was in the wrong place, making diagnosis rather difficult!
At first we'd thought it was just a case of poisoning, as I'd taken some new medication and we thought my body was just reacting badly. Then we thought it was gastric flu.
Then the pain really kicked in, and the GP thought if the pain were a little lower it would almost certainly be my appendix, but it wasn;t in quite the right place so we watched and waited. A few hours later the GP was sure it was appendicitis and packed me off to Casualty, where I was prodded some more (I remember the 5th doctor in a row prodding my abdomen in various places and asking "does that hurt? does that hurt?" and I just said, "Well, it all hurts!"
So I signed a release for an appendoctomy, although they were still puzzled about the location, and they said if it didn't turn out to be that, they would have to scan me to see if it was my ovaries. That freaked me a bit, and I still don't like having abdominal pains because I always think, "This time it's the ovaries."
The other upshot of my appendix being in the wrong place is that the "keyhole" they were supposed to remove the damn thing through got started at the point where most people's appendices are, and got enlarged until they found mine, some 2.5 inches further up! My appendoctomy scar does seem to be three times the size of anyone else's.
The thing that really bugged me was that I'd thrown up my last meal when the illness started, then they didn't let me have food or drink all day (then they stuck a tube down my dry throat and wondered why I had trouble breathing when I came round), then they didn't give me breakfast the next day and only gave me a bowl of soup in the afternoon, 48 hours after my last meal! How hungry was I?

From the initial suspiscion of appendicitis to whipping it out only took 12 hours in the end, and apparently "it wasn't pretty" when they removed it. They didn't let me keep it in a jar. My mother wanted to know if it really was caused by a cherry stone blocking the passage to the appendix; I didn't ask.

Oh, and because I had the operation in North Croydon, I got to chat in Hindi to all the nurses! ("Mat fikr karo," they said, "sab kuch thik ho jayega." And fortunately they were right.

[identity profile] lisekit.livejournal.com 2003-08-22 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
I also remember feeling kind of guilty about being in hospital

I didn't especially feel guilty, but they put me on a ward with serious cancer patients, at least one of whom frequently voiced her dislike of people like me who just pop in and out of the ward once fixed up. I can kind of see why that was upsetting for her (and, er, for me hearing that regularly!) - think there's a lot of logic to having separate cancer wards. I did worry to myself that she was going to hobble over in the night and smother me with a hospital pillow....

pethadine is *good*

Yay pethadine!

except that nobody bothered to tell me it'd make me sleepy.

The day after my actual operation, when the anaesthetic was still wearing off (you're quite right, it *is* horrid. It's basically poison that doesn't quite kill you), and I was smacked up on painkillers, and I'd had my stomach slit in half, I was resting up in bed half-asleep; and one of the bitch nurses came around and put her hands on her hips and said in a remonstrary tone, "Oh, Lise, you love your bed, don't you?" Well, surprisingly enough, yes!

Till you don't have them, you don't know how useful those muscles in your stomach are!

Too right! I had some back pain as a reslut of not being able to physically support my spine; and hey, aren't those muscles useful for going to the toilet?
I had a particular necessity to get mine back into shape - I went to South India to a residential dance school six weeks after the op. (When I came round and the consultant came to check on me, my first two questions were "When can I fly?" and "When can I dance?" Although there was a specific reason that time, I guess they would probably have been my first questions anyway.)

when a doctor first told me that I needed a drip ... 'I'm not really *that* ill am I?'

Drips are fairly standard first-line treatment for a lot of things I get quite often! I'm quite drip-savvy these days. It usually just means they want to hydrate you and balance your electrolytes, probably while you're Nil by Mouth. But yeah, they could have taken the trouble to tll you that!