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Karen ([personal profile] karen2205) wrote2013-04-08 07:05 pm

Baroness Thatcher

I wrote about today back in 2005.

I've already unfollowed about four people on Facebook and one on Twitter for suggesting her death is something to be celebrated. I'll keep doing that. *shrugs*. I feel very strongly indeed that:

(a) death is not something to be celebrated, ever [sometimes it's a relief]
(b) there's no good reason to be insulting a newly dead person. The insults can wait for a couple of months.
(c) how we treat and talk about the dead is important.

I see *celebration* of her death and insults directed at her as an ethical failing; a lack of compassion and of respect. [Disagreeing with her politics is an entirely different matter.].

reaction to todays news

[identity profile] x_mass.livejournal.com 2013-04-09 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Magaret thather had a private life and a public life. My intila reaction on hearing of Margarets death was my concern for Denis, hoping hat he was OK, only to be told he had passed some years before

Today is a tragedy for carol and mark thatcher and will cause signifcant suffering to margaret friends and if I was with them I would be doing everything I could to comfort them in their grief and loss. Such things are a private matter and those that carry on should be respected and cared for.

However their is also the public character: Margaret thatcher, who was unbelievably cruel, highly destructive, and was friends with mass-murderers. So just as I would treat Gaddaffi family with kindness when dealing with their grief equally I celebrated Gaddaffi's fall and equally I'm happy that someone who caused so much suffering has gone today

I hope in due course that the conservatives change and move back to who they were under Heath, Macmillian, Eden, Douglas-Home - a one nation view of conservatism rather than the neo-faschist ideas and representations of the conservative right.

[identity profile] beginning.livejournal.com 2013-04-08 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure this is simply due to me being a dumb Yank and all, but I have never understood the vitriol directed at her. It seems comparable to how many Americans feel about George W. Bush. I didn't like the guy's politics, but he seems like a well-meaning person, and I wouldn't throw a party if he were to die tomorrow. Very odd to me when people get like this.
Edited 2013-04-08 22:34 (UTC)
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[identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com 2013-04-09 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
Rather a lot of people lost their jobs as a result of her policies; don't you think it's understandable that those people would be angry with her?

[identity profile] beginning.livejournal.com 2013-04-09 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a reason to dislike her policies, not literally throw a party celebrating her death.
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[identity profile] ewx.livejournal.com 2013-04-09 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Evidently the people partying disagree. (I wasn't one of them, FTAOD.)