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First Aid + Live8
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1st Response training on Saturday morning – didn’t learn a lot.
CPR – if someone has no pulse and isn’t breathing then call an ambulance before starting ressuciation (if you’re on your own). Check for breathing using the back of your hand/looking at chest/using a mirror. Still 2 breaths to 15 compressions (not sure about under 8s – we weren’t told different numbers just that it’s one hand for 1-7 year olds and two fingers for under 1s. Ahh – the book says its 1: 5 for kids at the rate of 100/minute – which rings a very distant bell about something Susie said about some part of We will rock you being the right speed to use to get the timing right). Two person CPR isn’t taught anymore – if there’s someone else there swap with them when you get tired. Don’t check the mouth for obstructions when opening the airway by tilting the head back. She taught us to feel for a pulse – I’d thought that wasn’t done anymore.
Recovery position – the arm that doesn’t go by the face, doesn’t have a fixed position anymore – I think I’ll move it out of the way, because when practicing on each other we found that being rolled on top of an arm hurts.
Burns – now 20 mins under cold water for chemical burns.
Heart attacks – not told to give aspirin – I would if I had some available.
Asthma – not supposed to share inhalers. I don’t have any asthmatics atm, when I do, I will get them to leave a spare inhaler at Guides.
Epi-pens – she told us how to use them. IIRC being told the last time I did this training that we weren’t to use them and everyone agreeing that we’d use them anyway.
The trainer agrees with me re getting people to do first aid to themselves where possible eg. cleaning grazes. Also not the bubble bath method of graze cleaning.
I’m left feeling that I really want to do a full first aid course, but that will have to wait till I can persuade an employer to pay for it for me.
I watched the rest of Live8 whilst doing other things yesterday evening and was hit with various thoughts.
1, My general dislike for music is partly based on the antics of music fans. I don’t get jumping up and down and screaming at musicians. It hits my ‘don’t embarrass yourself in public, dear’ chip when other people do it. But, I’m allowed to like music regardless of how other music fans choose to express their enjoyment of music.
2, Related to this I absolutely hate forced audience participation – I would have hated to be in Hyde Park with so many people about me and being expected to join in with various songs. I don’t object to audiences joining in – it’s the expectation that they will, and them being jollied along that I don’t like. I don’t like public embarrassment unless it’s come as the result of something I’ve made a deliberate choice to do ie. JCR hustings.
3, Some of the music was good. Some of it was terrible and I’m allowed to call it terrible. My opinions about music are just as valid as everyone else’s, even though I know less music and dislike a lot of what I’ve heard.
4, Agree with![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
daweaver that Live8 not publishing exactly what they’re campaigning for is a Bad Thing.
5, Disagree with what a lot of the artists said – you cannot change the world with a music concert. I’ll find a hat and eat it if as a result of this concert African poverty is ended in the next twenty years.
6, It feels very planned and not the spontaneous thing that happened in 1985 (I’m not old enough to remember that one, so this is based on what I’ve heard). Mr Geldoff KBE has an agenda of his own, which doesn’t seem to be based on what people in Africa actually want. I don’t think it’s so bad as to do more harm than good – debt relief for African countries would be a good thing, but I don’t think he’s the right person to be trying to solve the problems of the third world.
7, As per Broadcasting House why is being assumed that as the developed world we have a duty to the third world – when Africa is actually very rich in minerals.
8, My personal opinion – we need to reform the CAP and get rid of most of the barriers to trade in food world-wide. For strategic defence reasons there will be countries who want to be self sufficient in food and there ought to be a way to build that into the system, but we don’t need vast mountains of butter or lakes of wine. Allowing African countries to compete fairly with other food producers would go a long way to helping many of the problems suffered there. Corruption in African governments should be tackled by the UN. Aid efforts should concentrate on building infrastructure where possible. There should be incentives for companies to go into Africa and build factories/offices there – there’s not a lot that can be done to prevent the droughts bits of Africa gets every few years, but there’s no reason why land that suffers from drought should be used to grow food.
1st Response training on Saturday morning – didn’t learn a lot.
CPR – if someone has no pulse and isn’t breathing then call an ambulance before starting ressuciation (if you’re on your own). Check for breathing using the back of your hand/looking at chest/using a mirror. Still 2 breaths to 15 compressions (not sure about under 8s – we weren’t told different numbers just that it’s one hand for 1-7 year olds and two fingers for under 1s. Ahh – the book says its 1: 5 for kids at the rate of 100/minute – which rings a very distant bell about something Susie said about some part of We will rock you being the right speed to use to get the timing right). Two person CPR isn’t taught anymore – if there’s someone else there swap with them when you get tired. Don’t check the mouth for obstructions when opening the airway by tilting the head back. She taught us to feel for a pulse – I’d thought that wasn’t done anymore.
Recovery position – the arm that doesn’t go by the face, doesn’t have a fixed position anymore – I think I’ll move it out of the way, because when practicing on each other we found that being rolled on top of an arm hurts.
Burns – now 20 mins under cold water for chemical burns.
Heart attacks – not told to give aspirin – I would if I had some available.
Asthma – not supposed to share inhalers. I don’t have any asthmatics atm, when I do, I will get them to leave a spare inhaler at Guides.
Epi-pens – she told us how to use them. IIRC being told the last time I did this training that we weren’t to use them and everyone agreeing that we’d use them anyway.
The trainer agrees with me re getting people to do first aid to themselves where possible eg. cleaning grazes. Also not the bubble bath method of graze cleaning.
I’m left feeling that I really want to do a full first aid course, but that will have to wait till I can persuade an employer to pay for it for me.
I watched the rest of Live8 whilst doing other things yesterday evening and was hit with various thoughts.
1, My general dislike for music is partly based on the antics of music fans. I don’t get jumping up and down and screaming at musicians. It hits my ‘don’t embarrass yourself in public, dear’ chip when other people do it. But, I’m allowed to like music regardless of how other music fans choose to express their enjoyment of music.
2, Related to this I absolutely hate forced audience participation – I would have hated to be in Hyde Park with so many people about me and being expected to join in with various songs. I don’t object to audiences joining in – it’s the expectation that they will, and them being jollied along that I don’t like. I don’t like public embarrassment unless it’s come as the result of something I’ve made a deliberate choice to do ie. JCR hustings.
3, Some of the music was good. Some of it was terrible and I’m allowed to call it terrible. My opinions about music are just as valid as everyone else’s, even though I know less music and dislike a lot of what I’ve heard.
4, Agree with
daweaver that Live8 not publishing exactly what they’re campaigning for is a Bad Thing. 5, Disagree with what a lot of the artists said – you cannot change the world with a music concert. I’ll find a hat and eat it if as a result of this concert African poverty is ended in the next twenty years.
6, It feels very planned and not the spontaneous thing that happened in 1985 (I’m not old enough to remember that one, so this is based on what I’ve heard). Mr Geldoff KBE has an agenda of his own, which doesn’t seem to be based on what people in Africa actually want. I don’t think it’s so bad as to do more harm than good – debt relief for African countries would be a good thing, but I don’t think he’s the right person to be trying to solve the problems of the third world.
7, As per Broadcasting House why is being assumed that as the developed world we have a duty to the third world – when Africa is actually very rich in minerals.
8, My personal opinion – we need to reform the CAP and get rid of most of the barriers to trade in food world-wide. For strategic defence reasons there will be countries who want to be self sufficient in food and there ought to be a way to build that into the system, but we don’t need vast mountains of butter or lakes of wine. Allowing African countries to compete fairly with other food producers would go a long way to helping many of the problems suffered there. Corruption in African governments should be tackled by the UN. Aid efforts should concentrate on building infrastructure where possible. There should be incentives for companies to go into Africa and build factories/offices there – there’s not a lot that can be done to prevent the droughts bits of Africa gets every few years, but there’s no reason why land that suffers from drought should be used to grow food.
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I had to suppress an urge to giggle when our trainer said that it was highly unlikely we'd ever need to use that knowledge - I did about seven years ago. People are very different to dummies.
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On the subject of Live 8, although I would agree with you that a rock concert is going to do diddilly-squat to end Third World Poverty in itself, it does: a) allow those with a view to gather, and speak their views with one voice, and b) it cannot fail but create awareness and change people's ideas and perceptions. If only half of the people who watched (in some form) Live 8 last weekend - hell, if only 1 in 10 people - come away from it better informed, more aware, and wanting to shout the message louder, then it has been a success.
Drop the Debt is not the answer in itself, and although it is a lot more complicated than that, it is an important, vital, and relatively easily achieved first step...
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Yes, I know. However, as a First Aider at a residental event, one's responsibilities extend a little further than that - not only does one do 'proper first aid', but one also adminsters the girls' medication and occassionally other items we have parental admission to give ie. paracetamol. There's very little 'real' first aid - just bumps/grazes/cuts to deal with. There's a lot more headaches/homesickness etc that require lots of TLC and not a lot else (though I will give girls who have headaches for a significant period of time paracetamol)
If I was faced with a casulty suffering anaphlytic shock, incapable of administering the adrenaline themselves I would certainly give it to them. The rules might say otherwise, but I'm prepared to take my chances with them in order to save someone's life. With an asthma inhaler/angina medication, I'd be more cautious, because AIUI you have to be able to time your breathing with pressing the inhaler, so having someone else doing that probably won't help.
The interesting thing that I learnt at my FAAT refresher course is that on the subject of CPR is that it has been found that there is virtually no likelihood that anyone will ever start breathing/become concious as a result of administering CPR - which is why the mobile defibulators are being pushed into communities and work places because that (or paramedics and hospitals) are the only thing to bring them round).
Yep - I knew that. It was being said the last time I did first aid (in 2002 - before the mobile devices were introduced) to make sure that once people start CPR they know it's not going to magically bring someone back to life and that they've got to carry on until medical help arrives. I'd like to be trained in how to use one of those mobile devices.
Re Live8 - I don't think *anyone* is actually better informed as a result of the weekend's concerts. I don't think all those who want to campaign for change in Africa want to speak with one voice - they've all got slightly different aims/ideas. What worries me is that the G8 leaders will decide to 'Drop the Debt' and propose a modest aid package and everyone will think that that is sufficient to 'solve' the problems in Africa and the continent will be forgotten for another twenty years...